Re: [HTCondor-users] How to add new users

[Matthew T West <M.T.West@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi All

Thank you all for the replies, as I think I understand the mechanics of adding pool users, at least on a singular AP. And if I am understanding things correctly, the `sacctmgr` equivalent would give admins finer-grained control over managing individual's resource access, like adjusting userprio or max jobs. Do I have that right? But how exactly one would implement this functionality while adhering to the dHTC ethos eludes me.

Also @Greg, it makes me happy that my newbie questions can have some sort of positive impact.

Cheers,
Matt

On 12/12/2022 17:35, Greg Thain via HTCondor-users wrote:

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Hi All,

I spend a decent portion of my time these days managing Slurm accounts
with https://slurm.schedmd.com/sacctmgr.html, but realized today that I
can't think of the equivalent tool the HTCondor ecosystem.

How exactly do new users get permission to submit jobs to the queue,
beyond being allowed on an Access Point?

Hi Matt:

I really appreciate this question, because it is something that is so fundamental to how HTCondor works today that we forget to document it, and never really come out and say it.  It really helps us to have someone with new eyes report these kinds of omissions to us.  I've been on the other side of this, and I know how annoying it can be to have documentation answer all kinds of advanced questions, but skip over core concepts because they are "obvious" to the authors.

The real answer is, out of the box, the assumption/convention is that every user with a Unix login to the Access Point, where the schedd runs, is allowed to submit jobs.  And yes, there are knobs you can set up to prevent this for certain users, but the default assumption is that everyone with a Unix login can submit jobs.

I'll try to find an appropriate place to add this to the online manual.

And as others have said, we are re-evaluating this convention, and thinking about first class ways to handle this.

-greg

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