Re: [HTCondor-users] HTCondor 8.2.6 Released

[Todd Tannenbaum <tannenba@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Miha,

Below you expressed surprise that the release announcement only listed 
bug fixes and neglected to mention/promote new features.  Please be 
aware that Version 8.2.6 of HTCondor is a stable series release.  All 
v8.2.x releases by definition will not have new features, they will only 
have bug fixes.  In parallel, v8.3.x of HTCondor is being developed, and 
v8.3.x will contain all the new features.  This segregation of a stable 
series (only bug fixes) from a development series (new features) is a 
common approach for software considered institutionally mission 
critical.  For those unfamiliar with the concept and the meaning behind 
HTCondor's version number scheme, it is explained in the second sentence 
on the HTCondor download page which points to here -
  http://htcondor.org/version_number.html

Tim's release announcement gives concise highlights a few of the bug 
fixes, and gives pointers to the complete list and additional 
information.  Perhaps it would help if Tim reminded users about this 
stable vs development release process and stated something like 
"...announce the release of HTCondor version 8.2.6, which is a 
stable-series release and therefore only contains bug fixes" instead of 
just the version number.

regards,
Todd


On 12/17/2014 11:55 AM, Miha Ahronovitz wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I know the new version announcement looked like this or worse for the
> last 30 plus years. I mean there is no notion of elementary product
> market. I write this message hoping that is never too late
>
> I have a little bird on my shoulder who whispers in ear: "So what?"
>
>         This new version contains:
>
>           - a bug fix to the log rotation of the condor_schedd on Linux
>         platforms
>
> So, what?
>
>           - transfer_input_files now works for directories on Windows
>         platforms
>
> OK
>
>           - a correction of the flags passed to the mail program on
>         Linux platforms
>
> So what?
>
>           - a RHEL 7 platform fix of a directory permission that
>         prevented daemons
>
>             from starting
>
> So what?
>
> This is list of bug fixing? Did we eliminate all the bugs? Of course
> not. Are they any new features? (which we already have too many). It
> does  not look like.
>
> So what we have is to listen to  Simon Sinek The power of Why
> <http://my-inner-voice.blogspot.com/2012/02/golden-circle.html> . .
> "People don't buy (or use) what you do, they buy (or use) why you do it."
>
> So why these bugs and not other bugs? Where are the documentation
> details for the user who wants to do "the log rotation of the
> condor_schedd on Linux platforms", uses a previous version and wonders
> why it does not work?.
>
> Does version 8.2.6 improves the HTCondors quality of life?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Miha
>
>
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> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tim Theisen <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     The HTCondor team is pleased to announce the release of HTCondor
>     version 8.2.6.
>
>     This new version contains:
>       - a bug fix to the log rotation of the condor_schedd on Linux
>     platforms
>       - transfer_input_files now works for directories on Windows platforms
>       - a correction of the flags passed to the mail program on Linux
>     platforms
>       - a RHEL 7 platform fix of a directory permission that prevented
>     daemons
>         from starting
>
>     A complete list of fixed bugs can be found in the version history.
>
>     Version History:
>     http://www.cs.wisc.edu/__htcondor/manual/v8.2.6/10___3Stable_Release.html
>     <http://www.cs.wisc.edu/htcondor/manual/v8.2.6/10_3Stable_Release.html>
>
>     Downloads Page:
>     http://www.cs.wisc.edu/__htcondor/downloads/
>     <http://www.cs.wisc.edu/htcondor/downloads/>
>
>     Thank you for your interest in HTCondor!
>
>     - The HTCondor Team
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Todd Tannenbaum <tannenba@xxxxxxxxxxx> University of Wisconsin-Madison
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