Re: [Condor-users] late binding of universe type

[Dan Bradley <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ryan,

I was forgetting that remote_universe is specially handled to convert 
universe names into numbers.  We'll have to make a special case for $$() 
expressions.  Thanks for pointing that out.

--Dan

Ryan Garver wrote:

> Thanks!  The second part that you described is what I was hoping for.  
> Unfortunately the $$() method doesn't work.  I appears that the 
> condor_submit command parses the job file and tries to validate the 
> universe entry as well as the remote_universe entry at submit time not 
> at matchmaking.  I have tried adding a layer of indirection to get it to 
> defer the validation however it resolves all variables it can and then 
> checks if it is a known universe.  any suggestion, or do I need your new 
> daemon.
>
> The reason I ask this weird question is because I would like to figure 
> out after I've submitted a job whether I will be doing a single Condor-C 
> hop to a vanilla/standard universe, or if I will need to make two hops.  
> Right now it seems that the remote_universe entry is what is holding me 
> back from this.  Hope this clarifies.
>
> Dan Bradley wrote:
>  
>
> > Hi Ryan,
> >
> > You should be able to use the $$() mechanism for remote_universe, just 
> > like any other attribute.  In the present scheme, if you want 
> > matchmaking to choose between grid and vanilla, you need to submit all 
> > of the jobs as grid universe jobs; a portion of those can then match to 
> > a Condor-C resource (i.e. a schedd) that will run them as vanilla jobs.
> >
> > We have a daemon in development that does things the other way around: 
> > the jobs run directly as vanilla jobs by default, but under conditions 
> > that you can configure and control, they may also match to grid 
> > destinations and be transformed into grid jobs.
> >
> > --Dan
> >
> > Ryan Garver wrote:
> >
> >  
> >    
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> > > I'm curious if it is possible to have a remote_universe entry in my job 
> > > file either fill in at matchmaking time or maybe be chosen from a list.  
> > > I would like to have a job choose between grid and vanilla.  This could 
> > > be by inserting a variable from the machine class ad or just be a list.  
> > > Is this even possible?  Is there a way to simulate this if it is not?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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