Re: [HTCondor-devel] Dan, quick question re shared port server


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:57:41 -0600
From: Dan Bradley <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [HTCondor-devel] Dan, quick question re shared port server

Interesting idea. Requests to the shared_port daemon use the daemonCore command protocol, so we have a clean indication of whether it is a SHARED_PORT_CONNECT request or not. We don't have to guess.

The default update method is UDP, so if you want to support that, you'd also have to forward UDP packets. That will involve extra overhead of resending the data, so it might actually be more overhead than just handling TCP. The collector will see the forwarded UDP packets coming from the local machine instead of from the original sender, unless there is some clever way to spoof that. That could mess up the authorization configuration a bit. Another complication with UDP is the security session. If shared_port forwards all authentication requests to the collector, then will shared_port have enough information to still be able to forward the UDP packets it receives to the collector? It seems possible to me, but I don't know for sure.

--Dan

On 1/17/13 5:26 PM, Todd Tannenbaum wrote:
Hi Dan -

When using the shared port server on the central manager (collector machine), things get a little complicated. Users either need to 1. open up two ports on their firewall for the central manager (one for the collector, one for the shared_port), or 2. open just one port on their firewall for the shared_port, but then they need to edit CONDOR_HOST everywhere on all nodes (including flocking), and also intuitive things like "condor_status -pool hostname.com" will not work as it used to.

Could we do better? The simple idea (credit: zmiller) is if the shared_port sees a malformed request (e.g. a stream that does not begin w/ a proper daemon name), the shared_port would send it to the collector by default if a collector is registered. The hope is this heuristic would enable us to run the shared_port on port 9618 everywhere including the central manager, and yet no need to modify CONDOR_HOST etc. We wanna have our cake and eat it as well.

Possible? Crazy? If you think it is reasonable/possible, we'll make a ticket.

thanks
Todd


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